As they prep for Lover’s release, Shelby and Ashley talk about the Secret Sessions and Taylor Swift’s new Vogue cover story ...
Shelby and Ashley needed time to truly prepare to break down this track, but they are here and they are loving it ... even if they do wonder how much was originally left on the cutting room floor. ...
Shelby and Ashley welcome Matt Huff from Shelby’s other podcast [PS You’re Wrong](https://twitter.com/psyourewrong?lang=en) for this special crossover episode as they talk about Taylor Swift’s end of the decade before getting into a discussion of Cats the movie and just what went wrong for her feline friends. For more movie takes and pop culture moments, be sure to listen to Shelby and Matt at [PS You’re Wrong](https://psyourewrong.podiant.co/) ...